agent orange thailandVeterans of the Vietnam War have all been treated differently – but none more different than Agent Orange Thailand vets:

Soldiers that can prove “Boots on the Ground” in the Republic of Vietnam are presumed exposed to Agent Orange.

Navy Veterans that served on ships in the inland waterways – the so-called Brown Water Navy Veterans – are entitled to a legal presumption that they were exposed to Agent Orange.

Some Veterans of the Vietnam Era that served in Korea were exposed to Agent Orange when the Department of Defense tried to defoliate portions of the Demilitarized Zone – click here if this describes your Vietnam Era service.

Thai Vets – Vietnam Era Veterans that served in Thailand during the war (as well as those in the Philippines and Okinawa) have long been the “orphans” of the Agent Orange catastrophe.

Why Agent Orange Thailand Claims May Be Getting a Little easier.

Though any Veteran that was stationed at Takhli, NKP, and many other Air Bases in Thailand can tell you that the vegetation around their perimeter quickly vanished after being sprayed, the VA and DoD have  long denied that Agent Orange was used in Thailand.

In May 2010, however, the VA issued a Compensation and Pension Bulletin that addressed the process that the VA should follow in handling Agent Orange claims for Vietnam Era Veterans stationed in Thailand.

The VA’s Process for Agent Orange Thailand Vets (since 2010).

Generally, here is how the VA’s process is working.

It is currently being used in Agent Orange Exposure claims by military veterans who served at some of the following Royal Thai Air Force Bases: U-Tapao, Ubon, NKP (Nakhon Phanom), Udorn,  Takhli, Korat or Don Muang, and others.

(Two other Thai bases where my law firm has heard of successful proof of Agent Orange exposure is Ramuson and Phu Mu).

If the military Veteran claiming Agent Orange caused a medical condition provides a lay statement that he (or she) was involved with perimeter security duty, and there is additional credible evidence supporting this statement, then – at least in theory – herbicide exposure on a “facts-found” or “direct” basis can be acknowledged.

The key phrase is “additional credible evidence supporting this statement”. What does that mean?

It means that the VA still won’t concede that Agent Orange was used inside the perimeter at these Air Bases, and wants to further segregate Thai Veterans into “those that were on the perimeter” and “those that were not on the perimeter”.

I believe this is a ridiculous distinction that ignores the reality of military life.

As one Veteran recently said to me:

“If the perimeter was being probed, and the alarm was sounded, you didn’t sit in your hooch sucking your thumb while the MPs took care of things.  No – everybody went out to the perimeter and took up positions.”

Regardless, the VA is still wanting some corroborating evidence that a service-member performed “perimeter duties”.

 

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What is Additional Credible Evidence?

Here are some examples of "additional credible evidence", as used above, that you might want to verify is in your C-File:

1) Your MOS  required perimeter duty - i.e., military police, dog handlers, air operations crews responsible for maintaining runways, etc.

2) You have a buddy statement from someone that manned a bunker on the perimeter with you on a frequent or regular basis.

3) Pictures of you on the perimeter at the RTAFB - though this is rare, I have seen Veterans that have photographs on the perimeter.

4) If part of your duties were to drive company or field grade officers around the base, and were frequently up on the perimeter with the officer, this may be sufficient to service-connect your condition to Agent Orange exposure.

5) If you are one of the few military veterans that has a copy of anything from your PCS flight from Thailand to a CONUS base, then it may be possible to show that you had "Boots on the Ground" in Vietnam.  Most - if not all - flights from a RTAFB taking soldiers from Thailand to the CONUS base passed through Vietnam, landing to deboard and refuel at Tan Son Nhut in Saigon.

6) If you assisted in Agent Orange (and other herbicide) spraying operations at Royal Thai Air Bases.

7) Unit Histories showing that your unit worked on or near the perimeter of a base where Agent Orange was used.

These are just a few of the ways that you can gather this additional credible evidence to corroborate perimeter duty on a US base in Thailand during the Vietnam War.

Conclusion.

Bottom line - if you are a Vietnam Era Veteran that served in Thailand, and remember performing work on the air base perimeter, you are entitled to an opportunity to prove  exposure to Agent Orange on a "facts found" or direct basis..

Unfortunately, the VA still very frequently ignores their own rules, and applies "old law" to Thai Veterans.

There is one thing you can do today to make sure that all the evidence in your C-File says what it needs to see:  Get a Copy of your C-File.

I have found that many of the "Thai Agent Orange" files are missing evidence that could help get the claim granted more efficiently - but the Veteran never know because they don't have a copy of their C-File.

If you are a Veteran who served on a base in Thailand trying to prove your own Agent Orange exposure claim, you can always reach out to an accredited VA attorney - for example, proving up appeals for Thai Veterans is one of the types of cases that my firm really enjoys doing

9 Comments

  1. DARRELL

    Informative article. When are you going to release your upcoming ebook on AO claims? I need it now…

    Reply
    • Chris Attig

      Darrell,

      We are working on it, and I hope to release it later this fall.

      What particular topics are you expecting to see covered in the Guidebook on Agent Orange Claims?

      Chris

      Reply
  2. Botines Timberland

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    Reply
    • Chris Attig

      Thanks for the positive feedback!! Let us know if there is specific information you need/want in your VA Claim but can’t find on the Veterans Law Blog!

      Chris

      Reply
  3. Dennis Melichar

    Misspellings of Thai Air Bases You have Udorn as Udom pronounced (You Dorn with the Dorn sounding close to Darn.) Thais roll many words like Germans pronounce umlouts (two dots over a letter)

    Reply
    • Chris Attig

      Thanks for correcting the spelling – and for the help with pronunciation! Greatly appreciated sir!

      Did you serve on a RTAFB during the Vietnam War?

      Chris

      Reply
  4. Roy Rohloff

    Yes, Veteran services in Plano smitted my claim, hopefully they will get it done, if not I will be contacting you to help.

    Thank

    Roy

    Reply
  5. Roy Rohloff

    Last year I had a calcium scan done at Baylor heart hospital. They told me that I had a higher score than 92% of people my age. I was totally unaware of any heart problems, except when I was stationed at U-tapao. I recall doing augmentee duty the first week there. They gave us a M16 and sent us to the premeter of the base and we would walk up and down the road looking for anyone trying to sneak onto the base.
    About three weeks later I went to sick call with headaches that I had been having for days. I also went to sick call for dizziness and 3 different times went because of chest pains. The first time my B/P was180/120. A week later it was back to 130/80. I was 20 years old then, but have not had to go to a doctor since then. I am now 65. I was on U-tapao in 1967-68.
    I filed a claim about 3 weeks ago. I have no record of ever been on thepremiter, but have the medicalrecord shwind the symptoms of agent orange exposure. Wish me well on my claim

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    • Chris Attig

      Roy – one vet to another, thank you for your service. I do hope your claim goes smoothly, and hope the VA resolves it quickly. Please let me know how it turns out. I’m guessing you are out of Waco Regional Office, correct?

      Reply

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